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I’m waiting to see one of these images where the size 16 doesn’t have her fat so wonderfully evenly distributed. Or any of the sizes, really. Because I’m absolutely positive that not everyone’s fat is so perfectly distributed to all the “right” places. I know mine isn’t.
The media is trying to be all about “all sizes are beautiful!” now, but what they really mean is, “all sizes are beautiful, as long as you don’t have those unsightly rolls of fat.” Just look at all the women in Dove’s campaign, or any picture with “plus-sized” models.
RANT FOR TODAY OVER.

OH MY GOD, THIS. Like, “You can be a plus size model, just make sure you’re a size 12-16 WITH NO LUMPS OR DIMPLES OR ANYTHING, PLZ!”I’m sorry, I’m currently a size 14 and my body does not look like that. It isn’t realistic. Same the the cartoons that are always being drawn. Sure, I’ve love to be that curvy if it meant I was totally smooth all over! For fucks sake. Shit like this make me want to take pictures of my stomach and shove it in their faces and go, “NO SORRY, this is what a size 14 looks like.”

It’s also photoshopped. I’m sure ALL of these ladies have some lumpiness, stretch marks, rolls, etc. But you can tell from the perfect smoothness of it all that it’s been edited.
I’m so anti-photoshop today, it’s not even funny. It’s one thing to photoshop away a zit or something. Your zit is not any everyday part of who you are, and you can’t help that it showed up on photo day. But to photoshop away your natural beauty is just… not right. It’s misleading. It says you look like something you NEVER look like.

So wait. Society is finally embracing plus size models, but you’re mad bc they’re not the right kind of plus size models? I understand what you’re saying, but that’s a little ridiculous. P.S. they airbrush size 2 models, what makes you think they won’t airbrush  plus-size models?

You completely misunderstood our points.
Society isn’t “embracing” plus size models. This “plus size” model is at the bottom-most range of plus size, i.e. as close to “thin” as they could get while still calling it “plus size” just to appease communities like ours. That is why this is ridiculous. A representation of the plus size community would be someone in the middle and/or representing the mean plus size, not someone at the very edge of the spectrum. She may wear a size 16 in stores that run 4 sizes smaller. The average woman who wears a size 16 looks noticeably larger than that.
My complaint about photoshopping applied to ALL the women, not just the biggest one. Don’t know where you got that.
So I really don’t think you “understand what we’re saying.” This photo is insulting to women as a whole. It’s fine to have a bigger body or a smaller body. But this image makes women think that they’re bigger than they are by showing women who are smaller than the size they’re listed at, and it makes women feel flawed by showing women in an array of sizes with seemingly zero imperfections, blemishes, or marks. It is misleading.

Oh my god all of this.
I’m a size 8 and I certainly don’t look like that.
For starters, my stomach isn’t perfectly flat like hers is.
My legs aren’t that toned.
My shoulders aren’t that bony and my ass doesn’t look that great.
Like, it’s fine and dandy to say that a man’s ideal is a size 12, but I certainly don’t look like any of these photos.

Hey guise guess what
I’m a size 3 or 4, aka runway model sized
and I still have rolls of fat and stretch marks
like, it’s physically fucking impossible not to have some sort of fat roll anywhere
because human beings need some measure of fat to fucking live
and that fat doesn’t magically decide to gravitate to all the photogenic parts
like guess what? I have a lumpy, dimpled ass, and I’ve got stretch marks on my hips, and my breasts aren’t totally perky! And that’s fucking okay because people are not naturally smooth as butter, and acting as if they are is completely alienating and degrading to bodies everywhere, cis, trans*, and in between.
These women don’t even look like this picture in real life. No one looks like that. Ever. Not even runway models.

I really fucking hate these graphics.  Can we at least include a media ideal, since it’s smaller than even the “Women’s Ideal”?  The whole point seems to be shaming and blaming women for unrealistic body images, when fuck you, that’s not how it works.  It doesn’t matter if women have been convinced that a size 8 is most attractive, because women are the target of most fat shaming and dieting messages.  When you’re told you can never be too skinny, and that not only your sense of worth but your very morality is dependent on your weight, of course you’re going to have a smaller ideal than a man.  To say nothing of the countless men who would call a size 12 woman unlovably fat.
AND of course we’re probably not talking about lesbians and bi women’s preferences for the women’s ideal.  Comparing a man’s preference for a woman’s size to a woman’s preference is a fucking bullshit false comparison.  The woman’s ideal is wrapped up in so much more than just, “This is what I like to look at” because women are talking about their own gender, with their own issues and hangups and lots of conditioning about how they should approach fat.
And those are photoshopped and not representative of actual size 8/12/16.  Also is it just me or does Tillie not have a right knee?

ROFL she doesn’t.
I’m size 8ish and i sure don’t look like that. I’ve got more shoulders, more thigh, more butt, less hip, more bicep…totally different distribution. Those shoulders are what really baffles me honestly. LOOK AT THEM! They’re, like, barely wider than her head! And I do have a flat stomach, but what is this MAGICFLAT thing. It’s flat bc muscle, not flat bc I don’t even know…
I hate graphics like these. They’re reminiscent of REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES & no, not all “real women” (whatever the fuck that means) have curves. 

Oh geez. Yeah.  When I was a size 8 (which meant that I only ate a couple times a week and nothing too nourishing – due to circumstances beyond my control, namely too many cognitive problems to cook and eat reliably) I had no ass and was super bony just about everywhere, no hips, but had huge breasts (those have always been out of proportion to anything) and a bit of a stomach.  Oh and I had lots of stretch marks even while a pretty thin child, because hypermobility-related skin issues will do that even without being fat or growing fast. 

Now that I’m way above a size sixteen, I have acquired fat close to everywhere.  But it really shows up most on my belly.  And my breasts if I hadn’t had to get a reduction because they were causing every possible problem huge boobs can cause.  But my belly is way out of proportion to any other part of me to the point I look fatter in profile than straight on.  And my face is fatter than lots of people I know who are much bigger than me overall.

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soultired:

bittergrapes:

madehimsaycomfychairs:

girlgrowingsmall:

miss-adriennej:

girlgrowingsmall:

changing-forthebetter:

fitforinfinity:

I’m waiting to see one of these images where the size 16 doesn’t have her fat so wonderfully evenly distributed. Or any of the sizes, really. Because I’m absolutely positive that not everyone’s fat is so perfectly distributed to all the “right” places. I know mine isn’t.

The media is trying to be all about “all sizes are beautiful!” now, but what they really mean is, “all sizes are beautiful, as long as you don’t have those unsightly rolls of fat.” Just look at all the women in Dove’s campaign, or any picture with “plus-sized” models.

RANT FOR TODAY OVER.

OH MY GOD, THIS.
Like, “You can be a plus size model, just make sure you’re a size 12-16 WITH NO LUMPS OR DIMPLES OR ANYTHING, PLZ!”
I’m sorry, I’m currently a size 14 and my body does not look like that. It isn’t realistic. Same the the cartoons that are always being drawn. Sure, I’ve love to be that curvy if it meant I was totally smooth all over! For fucks sake. Shit like this make me want to take pictures of my stomach and shove it in their faces and go, “NO SORRY, this is what a size 14 looks like.”

It’s also photoshopped. I’m sure ALL of these ladies have some lumpiness, stretch marks, rolls, etc. But you can tell from the perfect smoothness of it all that it’s been edited.

I’m so anti-photoshop today, it’s not even funny. It’s one thing to photoshop away a zit or something. Your zit is not any everyday part of who you are, and you can’t help that it showed up on photo day. But to photoshop away your natural beauty is just… not right. It’s misleading. It says you look like something you NEVER look like.

So wait. Society is finally embracing plus size models, but you’re mad bc they’re not the right kind of plus size models? I understand what you’re saying, but that’s a little ridiculous. P.S. they airbrush size 2 models, what makes you think they won’t airbrush  plus-size models?

You completely misunderstood our points.

  1. Society isn’t “embracing” plus size models. This “plus size” model is at the bottom-most range of plus size, i.e. as close to “thin” as they could get while still calling it “plus size” just to appease communities like ours. That is why this is ridiculous. A representation of the plus size community would be someone in the middle and/or representing the mean plus size, not someone at the very edge of the spectrum. She may wear a size 16 in stores that run 4 sizes smaller. The average woman who wears a size 16 looks noticeably larger than that.
  2. My complaint about photoshopping applied to ALL the women, not just the biggest one. Don’t know where you got that.

So I really don’t think you “understand what we’re saying.” This photo is insulting to women as a whole. It’s fine to have a bigger body or a smaller body. But this image makes women think that they’re bigger than they are by showing women who are smaller than the size they’re listed at, and it makes women feel flawed by showing women in an array of sizes with seemingly zero imperfections, blemishes, or marks. It is misleading.

Oh my god all of this.

I’m a size 8 and I certainly don’t look like that.

For starters, my stomach isn’t perfectly flat like hers is.

My legs aren’t that toned.

My shoulders aren’t that bony and my ass doesn’t look that great.

Like, it’s fine and dandy to say that a man’s ideal is a size 12, but I certainly don’t look like any of these photos.

Hey guise guess what

I’m a size 3 or 4, aka runway model sized

and I still have rolls of fat and stretch marks

like, it’s physically fucking impossible not to have some sort of fat roll anywhere

because human beings need some measure of fat to fucking live

and that fat doesn’t magically decide to gravitate to all the photogenic parts


like guess what? I have a lumpy, dimpled ass, and I’ve got stretch marks on my hips, and my breasts aren’t totally perky! And that’s fucking okay because people are not naturally smooth as butter, and acting as if they are is completely alienating and degrading to bodies everywhere, cis, trans*, and in between.

These women don’t even look like this picture in real life. No one looks like that. Ever. Not even runway models.

I really fucking hate these graphics.  Can we at least include a media ideal, since it’s smaller than even the “Women’s Ideal”?  The whole point seems to be shaming and blaming women for unrealistic body images, when fuck you, that’s not how it works.  It doesn’t matter if women have been convinced that a size 8 is most attractive, because women are the target of most fat shaming and dieting messages.  When you’re told you can never be too skinny, and that not only your sense of worth but your very morality is dependent on your weight, of course you’re going to have a smaller ideal than a man.  To say nothing of the countless men who would call a size 12 woman unlovably fat.

AND of course we’re probably not talking about lesbians and bi women’s preferences for the women’s ideal.  Comparing a man’s preference for a woman’s size to a woman’s preference is a fucking bullshit false comparison.  The woman’s ideal is wrapped up in so much more than just, “This is what I like to look at” because women are talking about their own gender, with their own issues and hangups and lots of conditioning about how they should approach fat.

And those are photoshopped and not representative of actual size 8/12/16.  Also is it just me or does Tillie not have a right knee?

ROFL she doesn’t.

I’m size 8ish and i sure don’t look like that. I’ve got more shoulders, more thigh, more butt, less hip, more bicep…totally different distribution. Those shoulders are what really baffles me honestly. LOOK AT THEM! They’re, like, barely wider than her head! And I do have a flat stomach, but what is this MAGICFLAT thing. It’s flat bc muscle, not flat bc I don’t even know…

I hate graphics like these. They’re reminiscent of REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES & no, not all “real women” (whatever the fuck that means) have curves.

Oh geez. Yeah. When I was a size 8 (which meant that I only ate a couple times a week and nothing too nourishing – due to circumstances beyond my control, namely too many cognitive problems to cook and eat reliably) I had no ass and was super bony just about everywhere, no hips, but had huge breasts (those have always been out of proportion to anything) and a bit of a stomach. Oh and I had lots of stretch marks even while a pretty thin child, because hypermobility-related skin issues will do that even without being fat or growing fast.

Now that I’m way above a size sixteen, I have acquired fat close to everywhere. But it really shows up most on my belly. And my breasts if I hadn’t had to get a reduction because they were causing every possible problem huge boobs can cause. But my belly is way out of proportion to any other part of me to the point I look fatter in profile than straight on. And my face is fatter than lots of people I know who are much bigger than me overall.

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