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9:42pm August 11, 2013
hereticswords: youneedacat: myadventuresinoddity: I’m sorry— but I hate when people say this! Why is it that when it comes to religion children are to be allowed to make their own decision? We don’t let children make their own decisions about ANYTHING else!? A parent who let their five year old, or ten year old, or fifteen year old make their own decisions about school wouldn’t be hailed as a great parent. No, children need guidance.  Parents and other adults should guide their children into maturity…and that includes guidance in the area of religion, morality, and philosophy (I bet you don’t mind if a parent guides his/her child to see women and men as equals).  After 18, I completely agree that a person should be allowed to make his or her own decisions…but stop acting like parents are evil for passing on their spiritual traditions to their kids.  I think you can give guidance and allow children to make some decisions. It’s not either or. My parents let me make decisions about school sometimes but not others. Ditto religion. Like they’d take me to some churches but not others. In general they let me make my own decisions within a certain framework, but they wouldn’t just let me do anything I wanted. In any area. I do think it’s okay to bring up your kids in your religion, or lack thereof, though. I’d just say I’d the kids show an extreme aversion to it, it wouldn’t always be good to force the issue. Being forced kicking and screaming into a religion will only lead to resentment in most cases. “ Like they’d take me to some churches but not others.” Why not others? And why take a child into any churches to begin with? “Being forced kicking and screaming into a religion will only lead to resentment in most cases.” So, if a child isn’t literally kicking and screaming in a Jesus boot camp, then it’s good for them? (Or, if they are, maybe the parents think they’ll eventually come to their senses and later on be grateful.) Some children are made to feel obligated to do things to please their parents. Consider also, many children are indoctrinated since birth (baptism, circumcision, etc.) when they have no idea at all what’s happening to them. Sorry, I don’t buy it. They took me to church because I wanted to go. Not others because they didn’t want me exposed to the kind of church where they say you’ll go to hell if you’re not that exact denomination. I said being dragged kicking and screaming into a religion is generally a bad thing, so I don’t know why you’d think I was saying it was a good thing? The only way I could see it as good, is if it’s one of those situations where the kid likes to be there but has trouble getting themselves to go. A common problem in all areas, not just religion, for kids with certain disabilities. Extreme caution has to be taken, though, to be sure you’re just helping a kid who has difficulty with transitions between activities, and not forcing a kid who truly hates it. I was a kid like that, who had extreme trouble initiating and switching movements and activities, so I’d sometimes act like I didn’t want to do something, when the problem was really just the transition.

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youneedacat:

myadventuresinoddity:

I’m sorry—

but I hate when people say this! Why is it that when it comes to religion children are to be allowed to make their own decision? We don’t let children make their own decisions about ANYTHING else!? A parent who let their five year old, or ten year old, or fifteen year old make their own decisions about school wouldn’t be hailed as a great parent. No, children need guidance.  Parents and other adults should guide their children into maturity…and that includes guidance in the area of religion, morality, and philosophy (I bet you don’t mind if a parent guides his/her child to see women and men as equals).  After 18, I completely agree that a person should be allowed to make his or her own decisions…but stop acting like parents are evil for passing on their spiritual traditions to their kids. 

I think you can give guidance and allow children to make some decisions. It’s not either or. My parents let me make decisions about school sometimes but not others. Ditto religion. Like they’d take me to some churches but not others. In general they let me make my own decisions within a certain framework, but they wouldn’t just let me do anything I wanted. In any area.

I do think it’s okay to bring up your kids in your religion, or lack thereof, though. I’d just say I’d the kids show an extreme aversion to it, it wouldn’t always be good to force the issue. Being forced kicking and screaming into a religion will only lead to resentment in most cases.

“ Like they’d take me to some churches but not others.” Why not others? And why take a child into any churches to begin with?

“Being forced kicking and screaming into a religion will only lead to resentment in most cases.” So, if a child isn’t literally kicking and screaming in a Jesus boot camp, then it’s good for them? (Or, if they are, maybe the parents think they’ll eventually come to their senses and later on be grateful.) Some children are made to feel obligated to do things to please their parents. Consider also, many children are indoctrinated since birth (baptism, circumcision, etc.) when they have no idea at all what’s happening to them. Sorry, I don’t buy it.

They took me to church because I wanted to go. Not others because they didn’t want me exposed to the kind of church where they say you’ll go to hell if you’re not that exact denomination.

I said being dragged kicking and screaming into a religion is generally a bad thing, so I don’t know why you’d think I was saying it was a good thing?

The only way I could see it as good, is if it’s one of those situations where the kid likes to be there but has trouble getting themselves to go. A common problem in all areas, not just religion, for kids with certain disabilities. Extreme caution has to be taken, though, to be sure you’re just helping a kid who has difficulty with transitions between activities, and not forcing a kid who truly hates it.

I was a kid like that, who had extreme trouble initiating and switching movements and activities, so I’d sometimes act like I didn’t want to do something, when the problem was really just the transition.

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