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1:21pm April 19, 2014
emt-monster asked: Relax dude. I'm not assuming that everyone is lying when they say someone put drugs in their drink. I'm saying it's REALLY easy to tell when people are lying about that shit. Possible assault/rape is always taken extremely serious. And treating someone like an adult have nothing to do with respect, it has something to do with trust. If you lie to me about that, then I'll doubt the truth of everything else you tell me. You're assuming I treat kids with less respect than adults? Based on what?

campdracula5eva:

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“You’re assuming I treat kids with less respect than adults? Based on what?”

Kids generally cannot withhold or give consent to medical care… Also, what does trust have to do with “treating someone like an adult”??  Would you also doubt the truth of everything a kid told you, just because they’re a kid?  Honestly, what differences are there between “treating an adult like a child” and “treating an adult like an adult” in your eyes?  Please do tell me, it’d provide some insight into how you think of children.

Also, no it’s not fucking easy to tell when people are lying or not, and there is always a chance you’ll be wrong.  You’re not a perfect lie detector.  No one is, stop overestimating your abilities at the detriment of people who may have been the victim of a violent crime.  If someone tells you someone put something in their drink, that’s already a serious situation and treating it as a lie is gross.

Can I just point out that I’ve been spiked and had a&e and the ambulance guys not believe me twice in my life? The first time I was left without medical attention for hours and got incredibly dehydrated, and basically only got help because a porter walked past. The second time I got discharged long before I was ready and collapsed on the way home.

Both times I was spoken to real badly and treated like a lying time waster.

Also I’ve never been on drugs around EMTs, but I’ve had EMTs assume I’m on drugs many times.  In one case they spent a lot of time arguing with each other over whether my condition was “drug overdose” or “psychological” – it was an adrenal crisis or near-crisis that I didn’t get treatment for because nobody was looking for medical causes of the problem.  During that same time period, I had EMTs say things to me like “did you just throw yourself on the floor again?” and do extremely complex mental status exams (ones that they themselves weren’t able to pass) to try to trip me up so that they could declare me incompetent and take me down to the hospital against my doctor’s orders.  I’ve had good EMTs, but the ones around here have their fair share of judgmental assholes.  No job description guarantees that someone is nice and wants to help you.